Right wingers/people on the right using deadly violence against those they perceive as their political enemies isn't new in this country, and we should never pretend that it is. Pretending they haven't been violent for decades legitimizes conservatives. It also makes our communities more vulnerable because it paints the violence as unfathomable vs. something that needs to be considered when making safety plans.
Abortion clinic bombings go back decades, same with people shooting doctors who provide abortion healthcare.
Right wingers have been attacking protests in support of Palestinian liberation, opposed to police violence, in defense of Black lives, and against climate change with both their vehicles & guns since at least 2020.
The violence of Jim Crow.
None of that counts the violence of the police.
Also, Luigi Mangione, like all people that have been charged but not convicted, is legally innocent (the standard is innocent unless proven guilty). We should never paint someone as guilty of a crime just because the police arrested them and a prosecutor charged them. Assuming guilt destroys people's reputations & lives and adds pressure for them to take a plea deal regardless of their guilt or innocence.
Mangione wasn't "just" arrested and charged, there's a mountain of evidence indicating he did it. We shouldn't rush to judgment, but we also shouldn't willfully blind ourselves once facts are available.
May his legacy be that ever word he ever uttered is completely repudiated and rejected, and his complete inability to see the world through anything but his most myopic grifter brain be rejected by all.
May his ideological allies see that his and their rhetoric has been pouring gas on the fire of politics. Whoever pulled the trigger, people like Ben Shapiro, Alex Jones, Jesse Waters, Tucker Carlson, Donald Trump, JD Vance, Jordan Peterson, Tim Pool, Dennis Prager, the entire Q movement, and all of the right wing funders of these astroturfed operations did nothing to promote the humanity or love for the other that would have stopped this.
Every human being is a potential universe of creativity, kindness, and imagination, and the loss of any person is a tragedy. May his wife and kids find community and be given space and time to work through their grief, and hope that the better world that we want to create includes them in it.
Welp, now they have a martyr and will (I hope I'm wrong) most likely kill someone else as "payback," and then THEY'LL be a martyr to whatever cause they supported, and, naturally, one of their supporters will have to kill someone so as to not "lose," so, of course, to settle the score, someone else is gonna have to die, cuz otherwise you're letting the otherside end on a winning note, and so on...
In Italy it turned out that a lot of the violence was instigated or enabled by the state & NATO intelligence agencies. A “strategy of tension” proved very useful to the security state and effective in keeping the left out of power. (Though I don’t think equivalent interests here even need the assist.)
Well, tbh, those of us who lived through the 1960s had seen far, far more "we're breaking apart!" incidents and evidence than during tRump 47. Nothing like the body-count from that era has transpired yet, and all the faff about "civil war" and the like are premature indeed.
Spot on. I remember the Anni di Piombo, but from the USA. Then I lived in Italy for a few years, and saw how it profoundly those years affected my friends and family. Speriamo bene.
Maybe along with our voter ID card we all should be evaluated for mental acuity by a psyciatric evaluation and a psych card ID issued. These folks needing help could go on meds that help stabilize their illness and prevent bad things from happening to them and us.
We'd also need a government that gives a shit about the people that live here and the ability to actually solve the problems that face those people. We have neither of those.
I’ve been referring this as The Years of Lead Paint
Plus, toxoplasmosis, over use of steroids and Viagra. Brain damage from Covid, flu, pollution, and AI.
Right wingers/people on the right using deadly violence against those they perceive as their political enemies isn't new in this country, and we should never pretend that it is. Pretending they haven't been violent for decades legitimizes conservatives. It also makes our communities more vulnerable because it paints the violence as unfathomable vs. something that needs to be considered when making safety plans.
Abortion clinic bombings go back decades, same with people shooting doctors who provide abortion healthcare.
Right wingers have been attacking protests in support of Palestinian liberation, opposed to police violence, in defense of Black lives, and against climate change with both their vehicles & guns since at least 2020.
The violence of Jim Crow.
None of that counts the violence of the police.
Also, Luigi Mangione, like all people that have been charged but not convicted, is legally innocent (the standard is innocent unless proven guilty). We should never paint someone as guilty of a crime just because the police arrested them and a prosecutor charged them. Assuming guilt destroys people's reputations & lives and adds pressure for them to take a plea deal regardless of their guilt or innocence.
Don't forget Oklahoma City!
Mangione wasn't "just" arrested and charged, there's a mountain of evidence indicating he did it. We shouldn't rush to judgment, but we also shouldn't willfully blind ourselves once facts are available.
You're on the jury, eh?
May Charlie Kirk rest in peace.
May his legacy be that ever word he ever uttered is completely repudiated and rejected, and his complete inability to see the world through anything but his most myopic grifter brain be rejected by all.
May his ideological allies see that his and their rhetoric has been pouring gas on the fire of politics. Whoever pulled the trigger, people like Ben Shapiro, Alex Jones, Jesse Waters, Tucker Carlson, Donald Trump, JD Vance, Jordan Peterson, Tim Pool, Dennis Prager, the entire Q movement, and all of the right wing funders of these astroturfed operations did nothing to promote the humanity or love for the other that would have stopped this.
Every human being is a potential universe of creativity, kindness, and imagination, and the loss of any person is a tragedy. May his wife and kids find community and be given space and time to work through their grief, and hope that the better world that we want to create includes them in it.
I believe it was an IVF clinic, not an abortion clinic.
The US has a radical, organized left? Where??
We can dream.
In the 1960s right wing lead killed 4 leaders of the left. JFK, Malcom X, MLK, RFK. These events were basically coups de' tat.
Right wing government lead killed Fred Hampton.
Welp, now they have a martyr and will (I hope I'm wrong) most likely kill someone else as "payback," and then THEY'LL be a martyr to whatever cause they supported, and, naturally, one of their supporters will have to kill someone so as to not "lose," so, of course, to settle the score, someone else is gonna have to die, cuz otherwise you're letting the otherside end on a winning note, and so on...
This is exactly what the ruling class wants.
I would disagree. The ruling class doesn't want to be shot. They want turmoil, yes, but not directed at them
Agreed but Charlie wasn't a member of the ruling class. He was just a henchman. Completely disposable.
In Italy it turned out that a lot of the violence was instigated or enabled by the state & NATO intelligence agencies. A “strategy of tension” proved very useful to the security state and effective in keeping the left out of power. (Though I don’t think equivalent interests here even need the assist.)
Well, tbh, those of us who lived through the 1960s had seen far, far more "we're breaking apart!" incidents and evidence than during tRump 47. Nothing like the body-count from that era has transpired yet, and all the faff about "civil war" and the like are premature indeed.
The depressing truth.
This needed to be said. Thanks, Cros.
Spot on. I remember the Anni di Piombo, but from the USA. Then I lived in Italy for a few years, and saw how it profoundly those years affected my friends and family. Speriamo bene.
Maybe along with our voter ID card we all should be evaluated for mental acuity by a psyciatric evaluation and a psych card ID issued. These folks needing help could go on meds that help stabilize their illness and prevent bad things from happening to them and us.
We'd also need a government that gives a shit about the people that live here and the ability to actually solve the problems that face those people. We have neither of those.