great piece, jack. been struggling with the idea that, if biden/harris win, harris the cop is probably? the next dem nominee in 2024. & she probably has a good chance of losing to whatever fox news anchor decides to run. either way, saying goodbye to progress for another 4/8/12 years.
great piece, jack. been struggling with the idea that, if biden/harris win, harris the cop is probably? the next dem nominee in 2024. & she probably has a good chance of losing to whatever fox news anchor decides to run. either way, saying goodbye to progress for another 4/8/12 years.
well what is your alternative? Harris isnt my choice. Biden isnt my choice. They got zero of my dollars or volunteer hours during this whole process but now they are who we are stuck with. So, now, they will get my money and time and i will yell at them constantly to be more lefty/progressive.
What else is there to do? Once trump steals the election ill be out in my 99.999% white rural, gun nut, wingnut, QAnon, 3 percenter town w/my sign in the town square and then ill probably be shot by my Real American neighbors and it will be called a "good" shoot by teh sheriff if anyone even cares by that point.
Why do you assume there must be a way for us to be 'saved'? Why would Harris and Biden listen to your yelling when they know you'll donate time and money regardless of any stance they take. Literally even if they raped someone?
When the challenger blew up, it recently came out, the cockpit was hardened to the point that the astronauts inside were very likely alive, and possibly conscious until it crashed down. At the height and speed they were going when it blew, they were in free fall for literally three minutes:
I guess I assumed you were asking what to do to make things better. The assumption that you had agency. The quotes were sort of meant to mock the concept that anything meaningful could be done.
The point is there is no point. There's nothing you can meaningfully do. You can vote for the rapist who segregated his housing and the guy who endorses sexualized torture of children (conversion therapy) or you can vote for the segregationist who raped a woman and the lady who put an embargo on sharing evidence of child rape with the victims who were trying to file civil suits.
Vote whoever, no one's going to stop you. Except maybe the federal government. But all you're doing is flipping switches on the console of the Challenger. Biden has threatened to fight people who wanted him to pull left and Kamala laughed at the idea at a fundraiser. This was during the primary when actions like that could conceivably advantage an opponent.
They'll fix nothing, just like Obama didn't rein in the banks or save anyone's houses, just like he didn't prosecute CIA torturers who now run the agency, just like he didn't end the wars or close Gitmo or dissolve DHS or ICE. Everything Bush created, Obama cemented. And I have my issues with the guy but there's no denying he was way to the left and had way more courage of convictions than Biden. That's more damning him with faint praise, but the fact remains that you should assume that literally everything Trump has created will be an inescapable part of the 'new normal' by the next election after this one, assuming one is held. You'd be nuts to believe otherwise.
gotcha - well no one hates obama more than me from the left and no one is more of a nihilist. But, since i am not yet ready to blow my head off a vote against trump is a vote for a (tiny bit) better society.
my actual plan is to leave this dumb country if trump holds office. Im guessing if hes still president next year he will then kick pence out, makes Ivanka VP. Then in 2024 shes just installed by fiat, then installs Jared as her VP and then we are basically Saudi Arabia meets Russia at that point.
Good luck with that. I've considered it myself. When do you suppose COVID will be under control enough Americans will be allowed to travel to other countries?
The way I've squared the circle is, a vote for a third party or a write in for 'none of the above' reduces the percentage of the total vote received by both the Republican and the Succ dem. I have quite a few races on my November ballot, its not just the presidential one for me unfortunately. It's not even a rounding error on the prez vote and, even the local city council cop-bootlicker won't know the difference, but in terms of 'what I can do', that seems like literally the most effective thing I can do, at the ballot box at least.
Dems always fight the tide of change - Obama spent tax money actively fighting off challenges to DOMA in court until literally Obergefell, if memory serves - but if enough people hit the streets and yell their heads of and change minds until 90% of America believes something to be an obvious moral truism, about ten years later Dems will cautiously endorse it. That's my bleak little ray of sunshine.
Thanks.. i have some money/resources and a highly valued technical skillset and my gf is a doctor. If we cant get the fuck out who can?
I disagree w/your take on your presidential vote but obviously you do you.
Dems are the fucking worst, except for the Nazis which are in reality truly the worst. The dems have sucked my entire life. Down with all the old people..the gerontocracy is killing us.
I'm in almost the same situation. I never understand the people who talk about moving to Canada who aren't. Like, they have more than enough bartenders and office assistants in Canada. As it is, as a pure scientist, I worry about what the crash is gonna do for funding in the short term.
There's the criticism that saying 'I'm gonna emigrate' is bougie lib talk for people who assume the privilege to leave, not everyone is so lucky. Which I get even though, again I don't think 90% of the white twitter libs would get accepted for a European or Canadian greencard on their own merits.
Now, though? I've yelled in enough cops faces in the last two months that if trump and them win, emigration is going to become a safety issue. Back in 2004 an airline gate agent let slip I'd been put on a list, and that was just for protesting Iraq under a less-Nazi president. More than happy to be a Szilard or Fermi, only way dumber, for some other country if this one goes full fash.
i donтАЩt know. i donтАЩt have a good alternative. i live in a swing state, so i have to vote for the lesser rapist and the cop to avoid electing the greater rapist and the evangelist. if i didnтАЩt live in a swing state i would be voting for neither the democratic nor republican ticket and writing in a progressive candidate.
great piece, jack. been struggling with the idea that, if biden/harris win, harris the cop is probably? the next dem nominee in 2024. & she probably has a good chance of losing to whatever fox news anchor decides to run. either way, saying goodbye to progress for another 4/8/12 years.
well what is your alternative? Harris isnt my choice. Biden isnt my choice. They got zero of my dollars or volunteer hours during this whole process but now they are who we are stuck with. So, now, they will get my money and time and i will yell at them constantly to be more lefty/progressive.
What else is there to do? Once trump steals the election ill be out in my 99.999% white rural, gun nut, wingnut, QAnon, 3 percenter town w/my sign in the town square and then ill probably be shot by my Real American neighbors and it will be called a "good" shoot by teh sheriff if anyone even cares by that point.
Again, what else are we to do?
Why do you assume there must be a way for us to be 'saved'? Why would Harris and Biden listen to your yelling when they know you'll donate time and money regardless of any stance they take. Literally even if they raped someone?
When the challenger blew up, it recently came out, the cockpit was hardened to the point that the astronauts inside were very likely alive, and possibly conscious until it crashed down. At the height and speed they were going when it blew, they were in free fall for literally three minutes:
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/3078062/ns/technology_and_science-space/t/chapter-eternity-descent/
What were they to do?
where do i use the word saved? whats your point?
I guess I assumed you were asking what to do to make things better. The assumption that you had agency. The quotes were sort of meant to mock the concept that anything meaningful could be done.
The point is there is no point. There's nothing you can meaningfully do. You can vote for the rapist who segregated his housing and the guy who endorses sexualized torture of children (conversion therapy) or you can vote for the segregationist who raped a woman and the lady who put an embargo on sharing evidence of child rape with the victims who were trying to file civil suits.
Vote whoever, no one's going to stop you. Except maybe the federal government. But all you're doing is flipping switches on the console of the Challenger. Biden has threatened to fight people who wanted him to pull left and Kamala laughed at the idea at a fundraiser. This was during the primary when actions like that could conceivably advantage an opponent.
They'll fix nothing, just like Obama didn't rein in the banks or save anyone's houses, just like he didn't prosecute CIA torturers who now run the agency, just like he didn't end the wars or close Gitmo or dissolve DHS or ICE. Everything Bush created, Obama cemented. And I have my issues with the guy but there's no denying he was way to the left and had way more courage of convictions than Biden. That's more damning him with faint praise, but the fact remains that you should assume that literally everything Trump has created will be an inescapable part of the 'new normal' by the next election after this one, assuming one is held. You'd be nuts to believe otherwise.
gotcha - well no one hates obama more than me from the left and no one is more of a nihilist. But, since i am not yet ready to blow my head off a vote against trump is a vote for a (tiny bit) better society.
my actual plan is to leave this dumb country if trump holds office. Im guessing if hes still president next year he will then kick pence out, makes Ivanka VP. Then in 2024 shes just installed by fiat, then installs Jared as her VP and then we are basically Saudi Arabia meets Russia at that point.
Good luck with that. I've considered it myself. When do you suppose COVID will be under control enough Americans will be allowed to travel to other countries?
The way I've squared the circle is, a vote for a third party or a write in for 'none of the above' reduces the percentage of the total vote received by both the Republican and the Succ dem. I have quite a few races on my November ballot, its not just the presidential one for me unfortunately. It's not even a rounding error on the prez vote and, even the local city council cop-bootlicker won't know the difference, but in terms of 'what I can do', that seems like literally the most effective thing I can do, at the ballot box at least.
Dems always fight the tide of change - Obama spent tax money actively fighting off challenges to DOMA in court until literally Obergefell, if memory serves - but if enough people hit the streets and yell their heads of and change minds until 90% of America believes something to be an obvious moral truism, about ten years later Dems will cautiously endorse it. That's my bleak little ray of sunshine.
Thanks.. i have some money/resources and a highly valued technical skillset and my gf is a doctor. If we cant get the fuck out who can?
I disagree w/your take on your presidential vote but obviously you do you.
Dems are the fucking worst, except for the Nazis which are in reality truly the worst. The dems have sucked my entire life. Down with all the old people..the gerontocracy is killing us.
I'm in almost the same situation. I never understand the people who talk about moving to Canada who aren't. Like, they have more than enough bartenders and office assistants in Canada. As it is, as a pure scientist, I worry about what the crash is gonna do for funding in the short term.
There's the criticism that saying 'I'm gonna emigrate' is bougie lib talk for people who assume the privilege to leave, not everyone is so lucky. Which I get even though, again I don't think 90% of the white twitter libs would get accepted for a European or Canadian greencard on their own merits.
Now, though? I've yelled in enough cops faces in the last two months that if trump and them win, emigration is going to become a safety issue. Back in 2004 an airline gate agent let slip I'd been put on a list, and that was just for protesting Iraq under a less-Nazi president. More than happy to be a Szilard or Fermi, only way dumber, for some other country if this one goes full fash.
i donтАЩt know. i donтАЩt have a good alternative. i live in a swing state, so i have to vote for the lesser rapist and the cop to avoid electing the greater rapist and the evangelist. if i didnтАЩt live in a swing state i would be voting for neither the democratic nor republican ticket and writing in a progressive candidate.