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Richard Cardenas's avatar

I can stomach the strategy of having Kasich speak, or Quibi lady. Ok, fine. I don't think it's good strategy, but I get it. The McCain videos and tributes irk me a little more since he was hawkish on the Iraq War (to say the least) but so were plenty of other Senators, including Biden. So if I've decided I can hold my nose and vote Biden, why not put up with some McCain.

What I can't stand is the rehabilitation of Colin Powell. I'm hard pressed to fathom how anything Trump has done is more evil than the lies that lead to us invading Iraq. It was an unnecessary, uncalled for, war of aggression on a poor nation. We killed at least half a million Iraqis, but we'll never know the real count because we couldn't be assed to tally the kills.

I didn't watch Powell last night. Sure, he wasn't AS evil as the other Bush guys, but he could've put the breaks on things and stopped the war, but instead he gave his UN speech. So, I don't know if I'll vote in November. If I do, it'll be Biden. But seeing Powell up there didn't exactly inspire me to risk my health to go to the polls.

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Dirtbag's avatar

Listen to the Blowback podcast. Powell had the greatest chance at stopping that atrocity and went along with the lies. He’s a real piece of shit.

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Richard Cardenas's avatar

yeah, I'm on like ep6 of Blowback. It makes me mad so I'm slowly working through it.

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J. Artemis's avatar

I was 12 when I listened to Powell's UN speech on the radio, and was just at the cusp of having the level of analytical thinking to think at the end "that sounds like a bunch of bullshit."

Only one leader in the Labour Party resigned over Iraq (Robin Cook), though obviously there were backbench members who voted against it and ones like Corbyn who spoke at the massive rallies against the war. There were plenty of times when someone major like Powell could have undercut the credibility of the march to war but chose not to, and I doubt many of them honestly believed in either the WMD argument or Saddam's connections to 9/11. Wolfowitz and all the Project for a New American Century people who flooded into the GWB administration had been talking about invading Iraq (just cause, basically) for at least a decade.

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