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Jim Wert's avatar

It's not hubris; it's called being the winner of a very long selection process involving millions of voters over months and months, thousands of state election workers, and money contri9buted from millions of people. So a couple of media wannabes, or has-beens in the case of the NYT, get an idea it should be someone else?? That's called stealing an election, remember that?

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𝓙𝓪𝓼𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓮 𝓦𝓸𝓵𝓯𝓮's avatar

Yes I do, in particular when SCOTUS overturned a free and fair election in 2000. They will do it again. Biden should issue an EO immediately to expand SCOTUS. He won't because he doesn't want to "pack" the court.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Scapegoating USA.

You voted time and time again for these morons!

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JennyStokes's avatar

What is EO?

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Stephen Breyer's Ice Cream's avatar

Executive Order

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ReadingRambo's avatar

There was no real primary process and you know that. Look man, is it important to beat Trump or not? Either it's important to beat Donald Trump or it's important for Joe Biden to stay in the race, but it can't be both.

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Jim Wert's avatar

Beating Trump this November can only be done by Joe. He's the only party nominee and the only one who can and will defeat Tump. That's the whole point

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ReadingRambo's avatar

You can't possibly believe that. You can't possibly listen to him speak and think "Yeah that's someone the whole country will vote for."

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Jim Wert's avatar

I do believe it and it's not clear that anyone else can be substituted for him so that there would be a Democrat lic ballot in every State and county. It will be massive chaos and hundreds of not thousands of law suits. That is if a single successor could even be found by election day. And why? Biden is the best vote getter.

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Stephen Breyer's Ice Cream's avatar

When the "selection process" involves a back-bench anonymous House rep and a wellness kook as the main opponents to the frontrunner, it wasn't a real selection process.

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JennyStokes's avatar

Of course not BUT you guys keep doing the same thing over and over again!

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Jim Wert's avatar

HaHa You're funny. It wasn't real? So the states just went through the motions and spent taxpayer money for a joke? It was an open process. If someone serious wanted to run, they could have had at it. The thing is the base across a wide spectrum is fine with Joe. Yea, sometimes he's your crazy uncle or grandpa, sometimes his policy choices on specific topics are infuriating, but we like him, we know what he's doing and WE CHOSE HIM. So don't steal it just because you weren't paying attention.

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ReadingRambo's avatar

Yes, the states spend government money (taxpayer money doesn't exist and is a right-wing rhetorical formulation designed to manipulate you into opposing government spending) on jokes all the time. Mississippi gave a bunch of money to Brett Favre for literally nothing. You might have heard about it, it was a real big story. State-level corruption and graft are quite common, and you think state governments wouldn't spend money on something that is a total joke?

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Stephen Breyer's Ice Cream's avatar

"So the states just went through the motions and spent taxpayer money for a joke?"

Yep, pretty much!

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defineandredefine's avatar

And, despite that joke, a significant proportion of us very much did NOT want Joe, because genocide support was a bridge too far for us.

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Jim Wert's avatar

I hold that against Joe also. Bernie didn't run this time. Joe won. The alternative is Holocaust Trump. You down with that? There can be no legitimate winning alternative to Joe in the time left. No money, no ground game, no campaign apparatus, it's over if you replace Joe.

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ReadingRambo's avatar

You know he has a vice president, right?

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defineandredefine's avatar

Look I'll vote for a moldy turnip before I vote for trump. If said turnip is biden, fine. So no, I'm not down with another 4 years of trump. And, frankly, that line of criticism is so fucking boring - we realize the threat of trump! That's why we want biden to be better or get the fuck out of the way!

Regardless, the fact is that the DNC basically squashed any chance of a serious primary challenge to ol Joe, and with it any chance of establishing a ground game, a campaign apparatus and a money supply.

Also, god love him, but Bernie is too old as well. Also I think his sitting out this time was a strategic choice - he didn't want to go up against an incumbent, which makes sense.

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Sam.'s avatar

What selection process? I don't recall voting for Genocide Joe to run for President in 2024

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JennyStokes's avatar

STOP paying your taxes. You know they are going to the military which is killing people every day!

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Stephen Breyer's Ice Cream's avatar

We actually don't have a choice on that. Our taxes are paid automatically as withholding from our paychecks. It's a nice thought, but impossible.

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JennyStokes's avatar

STOP it. Your Banks are owned by your Govt. and AIPAC.

IF I don't want to pay my taxes I don't go to my bank!

When your bank is broke because of BRICS you will have no say in the matter.

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