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J_'s avatar

I mean come tf on, as Jack says the right of return on its face reveals the lie here. I’m as ‘Jew-ish’ as it fucking gets, and have spent more hours of my life in a fucking Catholic church than in temple (thanks to my Jewish dad’s insistence I attend the best school in the area which ofc was the Catholic one), and yet I could get Israeli citizenship if I cobbled together the right documents. The incoherence of these pricks’ arguments is all just subterfuge for their broader goal of Israel never having to apologize about anything ever.

And to Bowman and Jack’s broader point, I have never felt less safe as a Jew than I do now, and it’s because of what Israel is doing. An entire nation state that’s become a shanda for the goyim and just handing ammunition to every actual nazi and white nationalist who’d love to erase every Jew alongside every Palestinian.

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Stephanie Kass's avatar

allll of this. I am Jewish too and grew up on Long Island amongst many like us. I'm starting to think the Israel-Judaism conflation and the overall Israel propaganda of it all is not actually directed toward us. I think the actual audience is the rest of the country who doesn't want to "offend Jews" by speaking negatively about Israel. I've never felt unsafe as a Jew. my grandmother is a survivor and she never expressly or otherwise conveyed to me that she ever felt unsafe here. it's such political establishment manufactured bullshit and we are just pawns. it's why groups like IfNotNow and JVP mobilized immediately in October to get out there and try to get ahead of what we knew was coming -- "we have to stand by Israel for the Jews!" NO WE DO NOT -- I'm one Jew but I fully co-sign every word of this.

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Stephen Breyer's Ice Cream's avatar

Or, as I've heard it pronounced by some of the older former locals, "Lon Gisland."

Also yes, all of this.

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Stephanie Kass's avatar

it took me so long to understand Lon Gisland, but it's a beautiful baby name if you ask me. I go with lawnguyland

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Stephen Breyer's Ice Cream's avatar

Oooh, "LawnGuyLand" is WAY better! I'm yoinking it, if you don't mind.

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Stephanie Kass's avatar

I had to google that and it was like when I'm about to watch a movie that I don't know one thing about

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