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Steve Hayward's avatar

Although I agree with you, think where we were in 2009. Obama had just taken office and it looked like we were on the cusp of moving towards universal healthcare. If anyone had predicted how obstructionist the GOP would become, or where we would be in 2020, they'd have been laughed out of the room. There wasn't a convincing argument for either of them to retire at the time.

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were screwed's avatar

This is a remarkably ignorant comment, im sorry to say. Im old enough to remember Bush v Gore and a host of other GOP abominations. Me and a billion other liberal/progressives predicted exactly such obstructionism. Hell, it took zero prognostications as Mitch came out and said it openly.

The convincing argument was that SCOTUS and judicial review determines what the law is. Breyer and RBG were already old.

Anyway, civility and norms will continue to get us all killed. Cant wait to be rounded up into Dachau Southwest and cry out "who could have guessed!!??"

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AnonymousBosch's avatar

It's remarkably ignorant because it jumps from 2009 to 2016 without dealing with the inteverning 7 years of time that elapsed. How could the supposed wisest judges in all the land have guessed the GOP would be obstructionist after SEVEN YEARS of them doing exactly that. And yes, also eight years of Clinton and eight years of Bush showing the GOP for exactly who they were.

Only a fucking moron (like Steve Hayward) would assume the GOP wouldn't use every dirty trick to ratfuck you, and right after a landslide election, with +20 in the senate is EXACTLY when you retire so the president can nominate the exact guy you want in there with no bullshit.

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were screwed's avatar

This is exactly correct and god bless your righteous anger as well. Were all going to end up complicit or in jail or killed by the Trump dynasty if there is not massive ans sustained resistance starting the night of the election.

Even if there is it might all be too late. Obama fucked us good by taking the high road and doing his best to cut social security and medicare and not dropping the fucking hammer on everything in his path. He was a peacetime president in the middle of a civil war. More McCllelan when we needed a Sherman.

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