Thank you for this. You’re right when you say it’s not enough, but in facing such horrific atrocities any positive news helps. I too think there is no going back. From what I’ve seen on social media once people truly understand what’s happening, their view is permanently changed. May the world totally change and fight for a free Palestine 🙏❤️🇵🇸
I’m guessing America’s two decade clusterfuck of war where we slaughtered hundreds of thousands of innocent people over a terroristic attack they had nothing to do with went a long way towards at least getting people to the point where they’d at least consider “maybe scorched earth blood vengeance isn’t the answer to the problem”
Definitely, I think people are also tired of seeing their hard earned money tossed into war machine even as we all go bankrupt from medical costs and are becoming homeless at an alarming rate
Deranged and sad that this counts as progress but I’ll certainly take it. Hopefully this is a can’t unring the bell type situation. I truly don’t know how Israel can go back to business as usual when the barbarism has been so fully on display.
i was worried that people would stop paying attention as time went on, especially given the horrible media environment that under-reports on or distorts many of the atrocities, and perhaps that has happened to an extent. So i appreciate this piece because it gives me hope and shows we need to keep our foot on the gas re: collective action, voting unaffiliated in remaining primaries, etc.
The top response to the tweet about Al-Shufan Hospital is a blue-check implying that the people killed by the IDF must, definitionally, have been valid targets:
Which is to say that people still supporting Israel under these circumstances are willfully gullible nitwits who will believe anything and believe in nothing at the same time.
(Based on his wording, I doubt this person even watched the video before responding to it.)
It's a start. But my hopes are that we start letting ourselves openly question the entire Biblical justifications for Israeli colonization, for Christian Zionist support for it in the name of their own Biblically-sourced apocalyptic beliefs, and yes, Islamic jihadi beliefs derived from their own Abrahamic, "divinely revealed" texts.
To me, a groundswell of public rejection of these root causes of the never-ending cycle of violence in the Abrahamic "family feud" is long overdue. If enough people seize the microphone and are heard by the true believers in all three clans, maybe their ranks will dwindle or their conviction cool down. Until then, I can't help but think that all cease-fires are forever temporary.
> Only when the palestinians are free of hamas and the PA will peace have a chance.
You mean when the Israeli government stops directly supporting Hamas and the PA in flagrant violation of US and Israeli law? It’s really hard to fault Palestinians for Netanyahu, considering they didn’t have the chance to vote against him, you know.
[Edited to include a blockquote, since you’ve edited your comment at least once already.]
> Sure, we should too, as should the UN. Netanyahu was the result of the what the Palestinians do and did, not the cause.
So what you’re saying is that the Palestinians are more responsible than the actual Israeli electorate for Netanyahu’s shameless criminality?
As for comparing Netanyahu to the UN, the UN hasn’t shamelessly violated US terrorism-financing laws with regard to Hamas, whereas the Israeli government officials under Netanyahu have repeatedly admitted that he has.
No, the Israeli electorate elected him, but the palestinians, their rulers at least, in large measure helped create the situation wherein he became viable.
The UN has supported Hamas either through incompetence or complicity for decades. Likely both. So have many US-based NGOs.
> No, the Israeli electorate elected him, but the palestinians, their rulers at least, in large measure helped create the situation wherein he became viable.
So what you’re saying is that Israel is not a democracy, and Israelis who nonetheless vote in elections (and serve in the IDF) are wee wittow babies with no agency in their lives, because the Israeli government is at the behest of an international Palestinian cabal that secretly controls Israeli politics from behind the scenes?
> The UN has supported Hamas either through incompetence or complicity for decades. Likely both. So have many US-based NGOs.
So what you’re saying is that supposition is better than proof?
Thank you for this. You’re right when you say it’s not enough, but in facing such horrific atrocities any positive news helps. I too think there is no going back. From what I’ve seen on social media once people truly understand what’s happening, their view is permanently changed. May the world totally change and fight for a free Palestine 🙏❤️🇵🇸
I’m guessing America’s two decade clusterfuck of war where we slaughtered hundreds of thousands of innocent people over a terroristic attack they had nothing to do with went a long way towards at least getting people to the point where they’d at least consider “maybe scorched earth blood vengeance isn’t the answer to the problem”
Definitely, I think people are also tired of seeing their hard earned money tossed into war machine even as we all go bankrupt from medical costs and are becoming homeless at an alarming rate
Something is indeed shifting. Good analysis!
Its not enough but for sure the winds are changing direction.
Hopefully these same eyes will stay open and see other atrocities happening because of us(US).
Deranged and sad that this counts as progress but I’ll certainly take it. Hopefully this is a can’t unring the bell type situation. I truly don’t know how Israel can go back to business as usual when the barbarism has been so fully on display.
i was worried that people would stop paying attention as time went on, especially given the horrible media environment that under-reports on or distorts many of the atrocities, and perhaps that has happened to an extent. So i appreciate this piece because it gives me hope and shows we need to keep our foot on the gas re: collective action, voting unaffiliated in remaining primaries, etc.
The top response to the tweet about Al-Shufan Hospital is a blue-check implying that the people killed by the IDF must, definitionally, have been valid targets:
https://twitter.com/mishtal/status/1774856291158028421
Which is to say that people still supporting Israel under these circumstances are willfully gullible nitwits who will believe anything and believe in nothing at the same time.
(Based on his wording, I doubt this person even watched the video before responding to it.)
It's a start. But my hopes are that we start letting ourselves openly question the entire Biblical justifications for Israeli colonization, for Christian Zionist support for it in the name of their own Biblically-sourced apocalyptic beliefs, and yes, Islamic jihadi beliefs derived from their own Abrahamic, "divinely revealed" texts.
To me, a groundswell of public rejection of these root causes of the never-ending cycle of violence in the Abrahamic "family feud" is long overdue. If enough people seize the microphone and are heard by the true believers in all three clans, maybe their ranks will dwindle or their conviction cool down. Until then, I can't help but think that all cease-fires are forever temporary.
That's one of the purposes of my own 'Stack.
Things are moving to a point. Then there’s my home state of Texas. https://www.texastribune.org/2024/03/27/israel-hamas-war-texas-universities/
Only when the palestinians are free of hamas and the PA will peace have a chance.
> Only when the palestinians are free of hamas and the PA will peace have a chance.
You mean when the Israeli government stops directly supporting Hamas and the PA in flagrant violation of US and Israeli law? It’s really hard to fault Palestinians for Netanyahu, considering they didn’t have the chance to vote against him, you know.
[Edited to include a blockquote, since you’ve edited your comment at least once already.]
Sure, we should too, as should the UN. Netanyahu was the result of the what the palestinians do and did, not the cause.
> Sure, we should too, as should the UN. Netanyahu was the result of the what the Palestinians do and did, not the cause.
So what you’re saying is that the Palestinians are more responsible than the actual Israeli electorate for Netanyahu’s shameless criminality?
As for comparing Netanyahu to the UN, the UN hasn’t shamelessly violated US terrorism-financing laws with regard to Hamas, whereas the Israeli government officials under Netanyahu have repeatedly admitted that he has.
No, the Israeli electorate elected him, but the palestinians, their rulers at least, in large measure helped create the situation wherein he became viable.
The UN has supported Hamas either through incompetence or complicity for decades. Likely both. So have many US-based NGOs.
> No, the Israeli electorate elected him, but the palestinians, their rulers at least, in large measure helped create the situation wherein he became viable.
So what you’re saying is that Israel is not a democracy, and Israelis who nonetheless vote in elections (and serve in the IDF) are wee wittow babies with no agency in their lives, because the Israeli government is at the behest of an international Palestinian cabal that secretly controls Israeli politics from behind the scenes?
> The UN has supported Hamas either through incompetence or complicity for decades. Likely both. So have many US-based NGOs.
So what you’re saying is that supposition is better than proof?
I think you know exactly what I'm saying, in both instances. Have a great day.
The PA was created as a result of an Israeli treaty signed in 1994:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Cairo_Agreement [edit: typo]
Are you saying that you are opposed to the Oslo Accords? If so, are you saying you support a one-state solution?
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=netanyahu+funding+hamas
but yes israel is totally an uwu smol bean