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This is good and fair, but also TO BE FAIR: I still dislike vice even tho some good journalists and bloggers etc work there. While you nail the reasons I and others still grimace at the thought of the site, the reason I mostly hate it these days is due to the damn ads/site design. It really feels like visiting a local newspaper or tv station site that just bombards you with ads. I get they need to pay the bills and those good bloggers, but fuck - I don't want to be on that site. It sucks. I'd much rather subscribe and pay for Discourse, Defector, The Athletic etc that have clean ad-free designs. It doesn't mean I don't read those shitty sites, it just means I don't visit them except to read an article by someone good (or on an interesting topic) that I saw linked elsewhere (twitter).

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