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Daybound's avatar

It's telling that Ezra thinks Kirk's pinnacle achievement was Newsome admitting that his son was a fan of his. One of the leading political thinkers on the center left, whose latest idea is rebranding austerity with accelerated deregulation, is in awe of a center right politician failing to raise his failson well enough to disuade him from falling into alt-right algorithm bait.

These people are all so unimpressive and self-sastisfied, it's fucking insane.

Ken Kovar's avatar

Well that was in fact Charlie Kirkโ€™s biggest achievement. Thatโ€™s all he accomplished and to think he got killed for it! Sorry everyone gets that he was a right wing scum bag but murder is not how politics are done!

defineandredefine's avatar

It's maddening - absolutely maddening - how many people think kirk was just trying to engage in "civil discussion" or "debate" or whatever. No. His WHOLE THING was belittling, degrading and berating anybody who dared question his bullshit. That's not debate. That's not good faith disagreement.

good4trouble's avatar

I've seen a couple others make a similar reference, an admiration for his willingness to have open discussion and debate the other side. But I think they confuse what sounds nice on paper with the reality - the audience wasn't those in attendance. It was for the eternally online, content artfully edited to cater to algorithms optimized for ragebait. Where is there a moment in which he considers the others argument?

That's not to be celebrated as further democratic discourse anymore than comedians like Jordan Klepper interviewing MAGA supporters at rally's. I enjoy it, it makes me feel better about myself but it doesn't enlighten me towards an alternative point of view anymore than your average Charlie Kirk Prove Me Wrong clip does either.

Call it for what it is - propaganda.

Ken Kovar's avatar

I want a democracy of ballots not bullets ๐Ÿ˜Ž

El Duderino's avatar

There are four boxes of liberty, my friend. You've named two of them.

Ken Kovar's avatar

Sure democracy and ballots and a people that believe in the process and donโ€™t storm capitolโ€™s and kill people who are active in politics. Itโ€™s disgusting to revel in someone dying right???!

Greg Thrasher's avatar

CK was a garden variety bigot and those seeking to enshrine him are the same

Greg/BLM

b-rar's avatar

Some worms and grass will be very well fed soon. It'll be his first positive contribution to the world.