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Mike's avatar

What’s so very dumb about touting these people is, if you give it even a modicum of thought, it’s not an endorsement of you, it’s a repudiation of trump. If you’re elected, those people will be lined up day one trying to torpedo any kind of agenda that you have for the constituency of the party. It’s the most cynical of politics to convince moderate republicans to vote for you knowing they want nothing to do with you and will be counting down the days to be able to vote for Vance in 2028.

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Tom S's avatar

Ok - but if Trump is elected what happens? Already lined up against all negative media orgs, ready to guy all govt agencies and put in political loyalists, justice system ready to mobilize against enemies, Gaza gone, Ukraine 50% gone, women’s rights gone, IVF maybe gone, Gay marriage etc on the table. Attacks on ‘vermin’ reticent of 1930s Germany? 2028 is a nightmare but if they Trump wins in 2024 - they literally are already saying the won’t certify elections if they thing there are problems with them so there won’t be any more 2 party system - it will be a 1 party with loyalty demanded. Let’s not stand on principle while the place burns down

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Mike's avatar

Or… you could make the argument that you should be elected based on who you are on not who the other guy is, it’s the problem Biden couldn’t get away from by framing it solely about trump. Make people want to vote for you, not against the other guy. They’ll be the ones who have to wait 8 hours to try and vote in Georgia or have to deal with armed people standing outside polling places in Arizona

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