And supporting genocide is a talking point. The US aid orgs and Govt are providing 100s of millions in supplies etc to Gaza and Ukraine - you don’t do that if you support the elimination of those peoples. You may not like policies but that is not support for genocide(and what until they see Trump’s positions on those 2 - buckle up as it will actually be support for genocide
And supporting genocide is a talking point. The US aid orgs and Govt are providing 100s of millions in supplies etc to Gaza and Ukraine - you don’t do that if you support the elimination of those peoples. You may not like policies but that is not support for genocide(and what until they see Trump’s positions on those 2 - buckle up as it will actually be support for genocide
I am not. It is simple - if you care about any marginalized people anywhere in the world, it clear that one candidate consider them ‘scum’ , ‘vermin’ etc and will never help them. Many are desperate to ensure that person does not take over the most powerful nation in the world. Many are putting aside policy issues to ensure that doesn’t happen. Some are not willing to do so and they are risking things becoming much much worse on the very issues upon which Their objections rest so make their point. I respect their right do so it and it is a pincipled stand. But the above is not really in dispute is it?
The US is also supplying food, medicine, transport passages when possible, etc. Again - you may not like the policy but it isn’t genocide it is more complicated than that. Also - a lot of nations are supplying weapons so it isn’t like the US is solely enabling anything. The hard reality is that Israel is the only anchor in a part of the world that is both energy rich(see critical for all of those SUVS and cheap flights in the US) and US friendly - so the weapons are a reflection that Israel is much more likely to be attacked(and now have been) post the Oct 2023 attacks. The calculus is that Israel keeps Iran and others at bay so the US doesn’t have to do so - the policy has little to do with Gaza. Hamas and Israel are using Gaza as pawn in that game. As we recognized the 1 year anniversary of the invasion, mass kidnappings, mass rape, and mass murder I wonder what Hamas expected to happen and I realize it is exactly what is happening. They retreat behind 2MM human shields, Bibi overreacts, Iran, Hezbollah, etc engage and maybe they get a regional conflict off of the blood of the people they claim to be governing and protecting. A nightmare all around.
The US stopped pretending to supply aid to Gaza months ago. And yeah, it was window dressing. It was not serious. And today? Israeli airstrikes kill at least 40 in Gaza. When will the bombardment end? Didn't Israel collectively punish Gaza enough? We're approaching 200,000 dead.
And supporting genocide is a talking point. The US aid orgs and Govt are providing 100s of millions in supplies etc to Gaza and Ukraine - you don’t do that if you support the elimination of those peoples. You may not like policies but that is not support for genocide(and what until they see Trump’s positions on those 2 - buckle up as it will actually be support for genocide
Your responses show you are an unserious individual not worth responding to. Have a good day.
I am not. It is simple - if you care about any marginalized people anywhere in the world, it clear that one candidate consider them ‘scum’ , ‘vermin’ etc and will never help them. Many are desperate to ensure that person does not take over the most powerful nation in the world. Many are putting aside policy issues to ensure that doesn’t happen. Some are not willing to do so and they are risking things becoming much much worse on the very issues upon which Their objections rest so make their point. I respect their right do so it and it is a pincipled stand. But the above is not really in dispute is it?
They’re supplying the weapons!
The US is also supplying food, medicine, transport passages when possible, etc. Again - you may not like the policy but it isn’t genocide it is more complicated than that. Also - a lot of nations are supplying weapons so it isn’t like the US is solely enabling anything. The hard reality is that Israel is the only anchor in a part of the world that is both energy rich(see critical for all of those SUVS and cheap flights in the US) and US friendly - so the weapons are a reflection that Israel is much more likely to be attacked(and now have been) post the Oct 2023 attacks. The calculus is that Israel keeps Iran and others at bay so the US doesn’t have to do so - the policy has little to do with Gaza. Hamas and Israel are using Gaza as pawn in that game. As we recognized the 1 year anniversary of the invasion, mass kidnappings, mass rape, and mass murder I wonder what Hamas expected to happen and I realize it is exactly what is happening. They retreat behind 2MM human shields, Bibi overreacts, Iran, Hezbollah, etc engage and maybe they get a regional conflict off of the blood of the people they claim to be governing and protecting. A nightmare all around.
It isn’t more complicated than that
Israeli officials said “we’re going to wipe out everyone in Gaza” and now they’re doing that.
just a few things:
a huge number of experts on human rights and genocide have said that israel is committing genocide: https://www.bu.edu/articles/2024/is-israel-committing-genocide-in-gaza/
https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2024/06/06/is-israel-committing-genocide-aryeh-neier/
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israel-engaged-in-genocidal-actions-in-gaza-says-israeli-american-holocaust-scholar/3308314
israeli military officials have said that their assault on gaza wouldn't last more than a few months without us support: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-09-02/ty-article-magazine/.premium/without-u-s-aid-israel-would-have-struggled-to-fight-in-gaza-beyond-a-few-months/00000191-aec2-d875-a3bb-aed7e2e30000
the united states has provided over 50,000 tons of weapons to israel over the past year: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-says-us-shipments-of-arms-and-equipment-during-war-exceeds-50000-tons/
i leave people to draw their own conclusions about all of that.
The US stopped pretending to supply aid to Gaza months ago. And yeah, it was window dressing. It was not serious. And today? Israeli airstrikes kill at least 40 in Gaza. When will the bombardment end? Didn't Israel collectively punish Gaza enough? We're approaching 200,000 dead.
go away tom nobody here believes your bullshit. a talking point. gtfo