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Socially distant armdancer's avatar

But all those questions have been asked of him in the past and he doesn't squirm, he just talks about how "women love him" and how good of a business man he is and that those numbers don't mean anything. And his base love that shit. The fact that he's raped/conned beautiful women is a PLUS to those assholes. As is the fact that he has fucked over the government in regard to taxes. That's their dream, to continue to benefit from government largess without paying for it at all & saying how terrible it is.

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A_Very_Nice_Dog's avatar

I don't think that's entirely true, based on the folks I know who support him. There's definitely some "own the libs" folks but there are also people who believe they're making a compromise on morals because they've got a good businessman who is allied with their causes. Slamming him on his business failings weakens that argument. It's not all bloodlust.

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Socially distant armdancer's avatar

But it's not news that he's a shitty businessman. He was hammered in the GOP primary debates on that, he's been hammered in the press about it since, and Hilary brought it up in 2016. I don't understand how anyone could be surprised that he's deeply in debt & also doesn't pay taxes.

And all the Susan Collins types out there don't give a shit about any of his personal failings anyway. All they care about is that he's packing the courts and pushing their agenda, so they'll continue to support him as they mildly disapprove of who he is & what he does.

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A_Very_Nice_Dog's avatar

I agree, but I want to offer a counternarrative. If you're avoiding "liberal" news, even if you're just reading the WSJ not to mention watching Fox, then there's not a lot of coverage of that. What you do know is that there are buildings around the world with TRUMP at the top of them. And if Jake Tapper tells you Donald Trump is a fraud, well - you're probably not wrong if you think Jake Tapper hates Donald Trump. So you can miss that drumbeat in the same way that it was kind of easy to miss the drumbeat on the Clinton Foundation in 2016 if you just read, like, Slate the whole time. And Trump has allied with religious conservatives who can make that leap if it suits them. So hitting on the bad businessman stuff in this context is one new avenue to expose people who think they've got a canny operator on their side to the reality that he's a fraud.

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Socially distant armdancer's avatar

I hear that and in a perfect world, I love the idea of people actually bothering to look into stuff like this. But from what I've seen, all the bombshells in the world about what a shitty person, businessman etc that Trump is will sway very few people.

That said, I'd love to be proven wrong on that.

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