Slam the door on what? Trump won't answer any question, he'll just bring up Hunter (again) or whatever. He's a slimy piece of shit, which is why trying a gotcha question doesn't matter. The one thing he's good at is changing the subject.
Slam the door on what? Trump won't answer any question, he'll just bring up Hunter (again) or whatever. He's a slimy piece of shit, which is why trying a gotcha question doesn't matter. The one thing he's good at is changing the subject.
You're probably right. It's frustrating to have someone who won't play by the rules, even when we know that going in. But I think he gets flustered around women, which was why I was a big Warren guy, and I also think Bernie would have no patience for being interrupted. You can't defer to a bully. Sometimes you've got to hit them in the mouth instead of waiting for them to stop. That's not who Biden is and it's ridiculous to expect that performance from him I guess.
More than anything, I want to see the current POTUS get punched square in the mouth. Repeatedly. Forever.
I agree. But remember what a creepy fuck he was with Hilary during the debates. I love Warren & greatly wish that she was up there last night instead of Biden. And I know she's actually talk policy. But would she had "gotten" Trump? Unfortunately, I don't think so. He'd just respond to any question he didn't like by calling her names and using ethnic slurs.
And Biden didn't have patience with being interrupted either, provoked into that "Will you just shut up, man" response, which people loved.
If Bernie had been there, Trump would have acted no differently. No matter how loudly or persistently Bernie had tried to speak, Trump would still have interrupted him and spoke over him. Maybe Bernie would have gotten his message out regardless. Maybe more of the audience would have had a "they're both shout-y old men" reaction. Hard to say.
Eh, I still believe really banging on him not being rich, him losing millions, him having to pay for sex and so on would really make him squirm but Biden will never do that because it would be stooping to his level.
In fairness neither would bernie but bernie also would just ignore his bullshit and do what he has always done, appeal to the material reality of most of the people in this country
Bernie would have had a debate on the topics of his choosing and no one would have been able to do anything about it, and the nation would be better for it.
And Biden DID appeal to the material reality of the people of this country, several times. The way he spoke with empathy and understanding about supporting a family member who has struggled with addiction will resonate with a lot of people. At least give him some credit for pulling that off a few times.
But all those questions have been asked of him in the past and he doesn't squirm, he just talks about how "women love him" and how good of a business man he is and that those numbers don't mean anything. And his base love that shit. The fact that he's raped/conned beautiful women is a PLUS to those assholes. As is the fact that he has fucked over the government in regard to taxes. That's their dream, to continue to benefit from government largess without paying for it at all & saying how terrible it is.
I don't think that's entirely true, based on the folks I know who support him. There's definitely some "own the libs" folks but there are also people who believe they're making a compromise on morals because they've got a good businessman who is allied with their causes. Slamming him on his business failings weakens that argument. It's not all bloodlust.
But it's not news that he's a shitty businessman. He was hammered in the GOP primary debates on that, he's been hammered in the press about it since, and Hilary brought it up in 2016. I don't understand how anyone could be surprised that he's deeply in debt & also doesn't pay taxes.
And all the Susan Collins types out there don't give a shit about any of his personal failings anyway. All they care about is that he's packing the courts and pushing their agenda, so they'll continue to support him as they mildly disapprove of who he is & what he does.
I agree, but I want to offer a counternarrative. If you're avoiding "liberal" news, even if you're just reading the WSJ not to mention watching Fox, then there's not a lot of coverage of that. What you do know is that there are buildings around the world with TRUMP at the top of them. And if Jake Tapper tells you Donald Trump is a fraud, well - you're probably not wrong if you think Jake Tapper hates Donald Trump. So you can miss that drumbeat in the same way that it was kind of easy to miss the drumbeat on the Clinton Foundation in 2016 if you just read, like, Slate the whole time. And Trump has allied with religious conservatives who can make that leap if it suits them. So hitting on the bad businessman stuff in this context is one new avenue to expose people who think they've got a canny operator on their side to the reality that he's a fraud.
I hear that and in a perfect world, I love the idea of people actually bothering to look into stuff like this. But from what I've seen, all the bombshells in the world about what a shitty person, businessman etc that Trump is will sway very few people.
Slam the door on what? Trump won't answer any question, he'll just bring up Hunter (again) or whatever. He's a slimy piece of shit, which is why trying a gotcha question doesn't matter. The one thing he's good at is changing the subject.
You're probably right. It's frustrating to have someone who won't play by the rules, even when we know that going in. But I think he gets flustered around women, which was why I was a big Warren guy, and I also think Bernie would have no patience for being interrupted. You can't defer to a bully. Sometimes you've got to hit them in the mouth instead of waiting for them to stop. That's not who Biden is and it's ridiculous to expect that performance from him I guess.
More than anything, I want to see the current POTUS get punched square in the mouth. Repeatedly. Forever.
I agree. But remember what a creepy fuck he was with Hilary during the debates. I love Warren & greatly wish that she was up there last night instead of Biden. And I know she's actually talk policy. But would she had "gotten" Trump? Unfortunately, I don't think so. He'd just respond to any question he didn't like by calling her names and using ethnic slurs.
And Biden didn't have patience with being interrupted either, provoked into that "Will you just shut up, man" response, which people loved.
If Bernie had been there, Trump would have acted no differently. No matter how loudly or persistently Bernie had tried to speak, Trump would still have interrupted him and spoke over him. Maybe Bernie would have gotten his message out regardless. Maybe more of the audience would have had a "they're both shout-y old men" reaction. Hard to say.
Eh, I still believe really banging on him not being rich, him losing millions, him having to pay for sex and so on would really make him squirm but Biden will never do that because it would be stooping to his level.
In fairness neither would bernie but bernie also would just ignore his bullshit and do what he has always done, appeal to the material reality of most of the people in this country
Bernie would have had a debate on the topics of his choosing and no one would have been able to do anything about it, and the nation would be better for it.
And Biden DID appeal to the material reality of the people of this country, several times. The way he spoke with empathy and understanding about supporting a family member who has struggled with addiction will resonate with a lot of people. At least give him some credit for pulling that off a few times.
But all those questions have been asked of him in the past and he doesn't squirm, he just talks about how "women love him" and how good of a business man he is and that those numbers don't mean anything. And his base love that shit. The fact that he's raped/conned beautiful women is a PLUS to those assholes. As is the fact that he has fucked over the government in regard to taxes. That's their dream, to continue to benefit from government largess without paying for it at all & saying how terrible it is.
I don't think that's entirely true, based on the folks I know who support him. There's definitely some "own the libs" folks but there are also people who believe they're making a compromise on morals because they've got a good businessman who is allied with their causes. Slamming him on his business failings weakens that argument. It's not all bloodlust.
But it's not news that he's a shitty businessman. He was hammered in the GOP primary debates on that, he's been hammered in the press about it since, and Hilary brought it up in 2016. I don't understand how anyone could be surprised that he's deeply in debt & also doesn't pay taxes.
And all the Susan Collins types out there don't give a shit about any of his personal failings anyway. All they care about is that he's packing the courts and pushing their agenda, so they'll continue to support him as they mildly disapprove of who he is & what he does.
I agree, but I want to offer a counternarrative. If you're avoiding "liberal" news, even if you're just reading the WSJ not to mention watching Fox, then there's not a lot of coverage of that. What you do know is that there are buildings around the world with TRUMP at the top of them. And if Jake Tapper tells you Donald Trump is a fraud, well - you're probably not wrong if you think Jake Tapper hates Donald Trump. So you can miss that drumbeat in the same way that it was kind of easy to miss the drumbeat on the Clinton Foundation in 2016 if you just read, like, Slate the whole time. And Trump has allied with religious conservatives who can make that leap if it suits them. So hitting on the bad businessman stuff in this context is one new avenue to expose people who think they've got a canny operator on their side to the reality that he's a fraud.
I hear that and in a perfect world, I love the idea of people actually bothering to look into stuff like this. But from what I've seen, all the bombshells in the world about what a shitty person, businessman etc that Trump is will sway very few people.
That said, I'd love to be proven wrong on that.